Monday, May 10, 2010

Can we dismantle the garrison communities?

From Facebook 10MAY10 RJR Beyond-The Headlines Can we and should we dismantle the garrison communities? And if so, what does that phrase mean to you?
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Selvin Jones at 6:46pm

i believe that our experience over the decades have proven that Garrison communities is a danger to our demacracy.
those who defends the continuation have personal goals and are in essence the enimies of freedom of speech and free choice and should be barred from taking part in our electorial process

Good 'N' Natural at 6:49pm

Yes. However, there is always the saying the political parties thrive on garrisons for safe votes. It means getting rid of areas in the society known as safe votes squalid areas...

Good 'N' Natural at 6:53pm

However, both the government and opposition will have to demonstrate the will and power to work together and lift the people out of the conditions just for vote...stop the hand outs...and also get rid the dons..it is a shame..I am sure most of the politicians reside in upscale areas and look on the areas that the roam for votes? Fine, poverty causes people to live in the condition but I do see anything being done to lift the people out of the conditions.

Alvarine Bennett at 6:56pm

garrison is a community with real people, where must we live.dismantle is not the way out its educating the people out.
i live in garrison i know that all of coomunity people dont have garrison mind. but we still have to live somewhere. things r not always what it seems.

Melisia Morgan at 7:14pm

How do we dismantle a monster created by members of the upper echelons of society, how do we tell the well to do uplifted motivated individuals in these communities that they will have to find place elsewhere and increase their cost of living? For any society to be functional, there must be some level of dysfunction and it is my opinion that some members of the garrison communities are the agents of this dysfunction. Education of these persons may cauterize the problems

Melisia Morgan at 7:15pm

If not education, then we simply have to make examples of the guilty ones... If all else fails as it has been going... Then we will NEED divine intervention

Jean Lowrie-Chin at 7:18p

Education is liberation - it will transform garrisons into safe communities where people can determine their own future.

Maurice Brown at 7:23pm


Garrison means "guaranteed votes" for politicians & since they know this all too well, hell would freeze over before garrisons are dismantled. Heaven help us.

Keisha Keish at 7:26pm


to elaborate on Alvarine's post, garrison does not equate 'squalid'. Many of us DO find a way out, eventually, because alot of us are much more than votes and cannot be bought or sold, contrary to popular belief. I've NEVER voted simply because I live in a garrison and do believe the politicians are losing their power...even if moving from frying pan to fire. In that regard, yes, alot of 'us' do need the empowerment & alot of mindframes dismantled. I've never seen anywhere else with so much potential and so little will-power/ so much hopelessness because of acculturation. A physical move isn't the answer.

Milton Forbes at 7:29pm


The problem is that symbiotic relationship between Politician and the criminal elements in the so called garrison communities. A political Will is needed to destroy this UNHOLY UNION

We can start with Fae Ellingtonton's suggestions published in Sunday Herald

Deanmarie White at 7:35pm


AT THE RISK OF SOUNDING LIKE A PESSIMIST...WE CAN'T!!
WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT THESE PEOPLE ARE AS CONVICTED AND CONVINCED ABOUT THEIR CRIMINAL LIFESTYLE, EVEN MORE THAN WE ARE ABOUT WORKING HARD FOR AN HONEST BREAD........IT'S A DEEP ENGRAVED MINDSET.......THEY ARE WILLING TO DIE FOR THEIR BELIEF......

Keisha Keish at 7:47pm


Deanmarie, that's a rather ill-conceived statement coming from someone who obviously has never passed through a garrison community, except maybe with windows rolled all the way up. People if you don't have facts, don't broad brush and comment. Criminals come from all echelons, likewise decent law-abiding citizens. Garrison doesn't equal criminals anymore than politicians do.

Deanmarie White at 7:55pm


KEISHA...LIKE YOU SAID..YOU DON'T KNOW ME, SO YOU CAN'T SAY THAT.......
IN ANOTHER POST..WE ALL KNOW THAT NOT 'EVERYONE' IN THE 'GARRISON' COMMUNITIES ARE CRIMINAL ELEMENTS..THE SAME WAY NOT EVERYBODY LIVING IN THE AFFLUENT COMMUNITIES OF UPPER ST. ANDREW ARE DECENT LAW-ABIDING CITIZENS...........THE EQUATION BALANCES ITSELF OUT.....
AND HAVING WORKED VERY CLOSELY WITH SOME OF THESE PEOPLE, BEHIND BARS AND IN THEIR COMMUNITIES, I CAN SAY WHAT I HAVE SAID....MANY OF THEM WILL NEVER WANT A JOB.....A 9-5 AS WE MAY KNOW IT!!! THEY DON'T AND THEY SAY SO....

Deanmarie White at 8:03pm


Maurice Brown Garrison means "guaranteed votes" for politicians & since they know this all too well, hell would freeze over before garrisons are dismantled. Heaven help us.
39 minutes ago----------I HAD TO BORROW THIS MAURICE...IT DESERVES A RE-POST!

Keisha Keish at 8:09pm


@Deanmarie: "WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT THESE PEOPLE ARE AS CONVICTED AND CONVINCED ABOUT THEIR CRIMINAL LIFESTYLE, EVEN MORE THAN WE ARE ABOUT WORKING HARD FOR AN HONEST BREAD" this is your former post but i'll accept that the latter is closer to the truth. Like you, I work with "these people" in the prisons, community, homes etc. In fact, many label me as "these people" simply because of my address. I convert "these people" everyday and after doing it for free from birth, now proudly do it on government service. But yes, I do know many people who neighbour me wouldn't be caught dead working a 9-5 and yes, I do know some 'rich' ones from 'uptown' too.
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